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Richard Gephardt: “Preserving Democracy: A Call for Civility”

October 31, 2024

(Conversation recorded on October 17th, 2024)

Show Summary

As the trust in the U.S. presidential election process continues to be in question, alongside growing polarization and dwindling good-faith conversations, the precarity of our democratic systems is becoming increasingly worrisome. Amongst the rising tensions, calls for civility are sorely needed – regardless of who wins.

In this conversation, Nate is joined by former Congressman Richard Gephardt to discuss the importance of democracy as a system of self-governance, as well as the need for respecting differing views in order to keep that system intact. Richard highlights the unique historical context of U.S. democracy, emphasizing the ongoing commitment of citizen participation required for its survival.

How can we encourage bipartisan collaboration and compromise toward effective policy action beyond the current election cycle? In what ways do our rapidly evolving information systems, including social media and artificial intelligence, deepen our political divides? Despite the domestic and global challenges facing us, is there hope for the future of the American “democratic experiment”?

About Richard Gephardt

Richard Gephardt is an attorney, author, lobbyist, and politician who served 28 years in the United States House of Representatives. He is the President and CEO of the Gephardt Group, where he works to inspire a new understanding of citizenship based on activism to bring about economic, social, and political change.

Gephardt previously served as the United States House Majority Leader (1989-1995) and House Minority Leader (1995-2003). He is the author of three books, including An Even Better Place and The American Immigrant: The Outsiders.

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00:00 – Richard Gephardt info, prior TGS Episode

01:10 – Advance Policy

02:39 – Tristan Harris, TGS Episode

04:06 – 1979 US Constitution

04:19 – Athenian Democracy + Roman Republic

06:10 – A republic if you can keep it

08:42 – Churchill quote on democracy

11:00 – Growing partisan hostility

11:30 – Trust in election results

15:50 – 2004 voting conspiracies Ohio

16:50 – Proportion of Republicans who believe Biden’s win was illegitimate

17:15 – Lawsuits regarding the 2020 election

17:49 – Republicans who voted to overturn the 2020 election

18:45 – Swing states

19:15 – Gerrymandering + Redistricting in different states

20:43 – Ranked Choice Voting

25:20 – The printing press and witch hunts

26:47 – Radio and the rise of the Nazis

27:50 – Social media algorithms

28:33 – Aza Raskin, TGS Episode

28:53 – Center for Humane Technology

29:00 – Project Liberty + bid for TikTok 

38:58 – John McCain

39:59 – Campaign finance reform

41:05 – Institute for Civic and Community Engagement

42:00 – 535 Not 1

46:36 – US voter turnout

48:13 – Clausewitz

49:14 – The Sunni-Shia divide

52:36 – US debt 

53:20 – US Federal spending

53:27 – US healthcare spending is **17.3% of GDP (2022)

Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens is the Director of The Institute for the Study of Energy & Our Future (ISEOF) an organization focused on educating and preparing society for the coming cultural transition. Allied with leading ecologists, energy experts, politicians and systems thinkers ISEOF assembles road-maps and off-ramps for how human societies can adapt to lower throughput lifestyles.

Nate holds a Masters Degree in Finance with Honors from the University of Chicago and a Ph.D. in Natural Resources from the University of Vermont. He teaches an Honors course, Reality 101, at the University of Minnesota.