In Dialogue with Ben Falk

Imagine a bold global policy mandating regions to mobilize every citizen to plant just one tree per year. With a global population exceeding 8 billion, this simple act would translate to planting over 8 billion trees annually—far exceeding the current rate of loss and driving progress toward restoration goals.

In this special episode, Nate is joined by toxicologist Jane Muncke, who provides an in-depth analysis following the final day of discussions in Busan, South Korea. Together, they explore the complex intergovernmental negotiations that have defined the treaty process, as well as the environmental and health policies that have shaped these conversations in recent years.

Economists in the mainstream have typically looked down on the heretical ideas of these ecological economists and promoted a solution that leaves their core theories as little changed as possible: externalities.